You've only got to peruse the message boards on IMDb on any movie that is even passingly thought of as "controversial" or deals with anything religious or true stories etc to find WHACKOS who post huge messages about how a movie "wasnt historically accurate" or is "racist" or "derogatory to women/Jews/muslims" etc etc I HATE those people...it's like, repeat after me..."it's JUST a MOVIE..."

Never go to the imdb message boards if you want to have meaningful conversations. It's mainly a bunch of attention starved 12 year olds looking to start a fight with people who don't know any better.

Yeah I was kinda thinking that...although some can be quite entertaining to read (ie the people who actually get sucked into ridiculous circular arguments)...but then there's the people who basically say "You guys all suck for liking this movie", followed by "No, YOU suck!" "No, YOU suck!"...."No...YOU SUCK!!!!" etc etc

Wow - this is a topic that gets me fired up also... especially the "that was racist" or "that was derogatory" crap. Attrage, remember when you did a review on BHM for Friday the 13th part 2 with the picture that had the caption "your days are numbered wheelchair boy" and that chick berated you for being insensitive to those with disabilities?  I fired back at her about "cry-baby political correctness" and such... I can't stand those morons.

Goodness... I've posted about 5 posts tonight on various topics that call people "morons"... maybe I need some anger management....

What berating?? I must have missed that, I'll go back and have a look...damn that's funny :) I really like ticking people like that off, it's hugely amusing for me...actually if you have a link or something i'd love to read your response to her too :)

Check this out - the comments from your review Here.

Oh man...ROFLMAO...that's awesome...

"disgusting and unnecessarily sadistic"?? Yep, that's me alright!

I'll have to keep an eye on the comments, that's made my day! Thanks for the responses, btw :)

No problem.  Girls in panties have feelings too, after all...

Indeed they do...*nods sagely* indeed they do...I dont know about you but i always try and spare a thought for girls in panties...

As you should... you're a good man.

you all got a point, but this not only happens in the case of "controversial" or "historically inaccurate" movies, i have stopped watching movies with a lot of my friends cause they were being really stupid about a bunch of things that really didn't matter. for example in a lot of horror movies they get disappointed when one of the characters has a weapon and doesn't kill the villain when he/she has the chance (i keep telling "do you want the movie to be over already?!") or when (and i know a lot of people didn't like that part  either) in the hitcher remake (yeah i actually liked it) ryder takes down a bunch of cop cars and a hellicopter with a gun (its a f**ing movie!!!) i really hate it when people are sudenly physicists or  chemistry experts  "oh  that's immposible"  we all know its immposible you big a*hole, its for entertaining! if movies were about realism  (especially horror and action films) the only things in cinemas would be two or three documentary films.

the other thing people take too seriously, especially my lady friends, is female nudity (most in horror films), i know people that complain about the painting scene in stephen king's riding the bullet (its not even obscene or sexually oriented!),

my lady friends always complain because there's always a nude girl in the horror films but let's face it nobody (not even women) wants to see a guy's thing flapping around while he scapes, male nudity it's not pretty. have we not got enough with hostal II?. my point is movies are for entertaining, i love films because they take me out of the real world for a moment, if a scene is not realistic, if the movie has to much nudity, if the villain survives everything, if two people live happily ever after IT IS FICTION! OK!!!

IMDB message boards, in general, are good for one thing.  Popping a bowl of popcorn and watching the war begin.

Now then:  First off, people take EVERYTHING too seriously.  Reinterating a point I made in my liveblog of fear itself, the Parents TV Council is mad at Applebees for advertising during shows that contrast against IHOP's family image.  They got mad when CBS brought Dexter to sunday night's at 10 off of showtime, claiming it made the murderer the hero and would lead to people worshipping the BAAAAAD Character.  PLEASE.  I've read FCC complaints on shows like family guy, south park, and Penn and Teller:  BS.  Some of these are so damn stupid.  "Oh they showed such and such at 1AM uncensored they shouldnt be able to do that."  WELL WHY THE HELL IS YOUR KID UP AT 1AM!  Take some freaking responsibility.

Second, and i'm surprised you didnt mention this classic, Horror Czar, but four words:  Silent Night, Deadly Night.  Look up the controversy on this cheesy great horror movie.  It's epic in its hilarity.  People were saying the makers were screwed up in the head making a murderer out of santa.  When Siskel and Ebert reviewed it, they actually READ THE FREAKING CREDITS AND SAID "SHAME" AFTER EACH NAME!  People protested outside the movie claiming it was harming the children....well what the hell are the children doing inside?  The PTA protested so hard that they got it pulled from theaters in virtually the blink of an eye.

Another point:  Resident Evil 5, the video game:  people were claiming racism because there were black characters getting killed by the white main character.  THE GAME TAKES PLACE IN AFRICA.  HELLLOOOOOOO!......not only that, but I dont remember hearing too many complaints when in RE 4, the white main character was blowing the heads off of spanish people in Spain!

And I know, Attrage, you don't like Hostel, but I gotta mention, there was an argument for a while in Fangoria and elsewhere about the amount of times the characters call people gay or fags or etc, saying the movie was derogatory toward homosexuals.  Roth responded by saying that he was tryiing to make the dialogue "realistic".  While that might be a stretch to say the least, I havent met ANYONE who actually noticed that the characters did that any larger amount of time.

And lastly, Lestat:  I gotta say, you think you had it bad.  In my Senior year at college, I couldnt watch a movie in my room for fear that one of my roommates would begin making asinine comments.  We tried to watch Resident Evil up there once, and he started asking about the elevator scene and whether it was physically possible for the elevator to do that.  And that was just the tip of the iceberg.  I took some friends into the LAUNDRY ROOM once to show them Airplane! for fear that that moron would make some comment about the lack of realism of the ZANY SLAPSTICK COMEDY!  Sometimes, a point of appeal in a movie is that there are stupid flaws in the movie (evil dead comes to mind) but otherwise, just watch the stupid movie!

Oh, and if theres one person who could get into a whole massive philosophical diatribe about how women are far less objectified in horror movies than people claim, lestat, its me.  I wrote essays my senior year on the usage of sex, sexuality, and androgyny in horror and a freaking TOME on women in horror since Psycho.  lol.

In case you guys couldnt tell...I follow this type of topic pretty closely.  lol.

I thought the review was really good. I couldn't find anything mean about it. I don't think people who can't handle everyday life should be watching horror. I mean if you can't deal with your own mind why step into someones twisted mind. Horror is not everyone's cup of tea, so if they like coffee they should not stop at the tea house! Life is why to serious anyway hell we all need a way to forget for awhile some of us do that with horror. I love to put myself in the killers place and pretend that I am hacking up the person who cut me off on the way home!

It's great that I seem to have started a good discussion on this topic so i'll throw in a few more cents of my own :)

lestat, i totally understand where you're coming from, i love people that suddenly become experts in things, like when watching a disaster movie or something, suddenly one person in the room's gotta be a geological expert explaining that "oh if a comet REALLY hit the earth, this would happen, this wouldnt happen, oh this movie is so unrealistic!!" that's just one example i can think of atm... i also love what i call the "wiki-llectuals", people who claim to be experts in things when its obvious they've just jumped on Wikipedia before posting on the boards and got all their info from there. Also I totally agree with the male/female nudity thing...no offence to any women horror fans reading this, but its true, in the words of Elaine from Seinfeld (i cant put it better myself!) "The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian, it's for getting around, it's like a Jeep!"

crypticpsych, I'll cut my comments short by just saying i agree with pretty much everything in your post, I think i was too busy hating everything about Hostel to notice much of the dialogue, it'd be fair to say i tuned out when the FIRST line in that movie was "Amsterdam, motherf*ckers!!!" Puh-leeze. I had similar experiences with "Lady in the Water" someone saying that move wasnt realistic...I pointed out that at the START of that movie it says it's a "bedtime story", and it's a total fantasy for chrissakes...I mean, what exactly did they want portrayed realistically?? Some people just don't have a f*cking clue. Yeah, geez, Goldilocks and the Three Bears in unrealistic, man! Bears can't talk!!!

Yikes, did i say I'd cut that comment short? LOL, well to finish, FreakyCreepieChic I agree, if you can't laugh at a dummy bouncing down some stairs in a wheelchair, genre doesnt really matter, you probably shouldnt be watching movies, period. And your last sentence there is gold! Anyone familiar with my reviews and posts on here knows I share that sentiment!!

This kind of quoting uses less space:

"Bears can't talk!"

They also prolly dont like porridge much.  :-P

"I agree, if you can't laugh at a dummy bouncing down some stairs in a wheelchair, genre doesnt really matter, you probably shouldnt be watching movies, period."

The greatest movie for violence toward dummies if you watch it carefully has got to be Evil Dead.  My favorite has to be when Ash clocks one of the deadites with a shovel on the top of the head, and the body like crumples out of frame fast, exactly like a balloon.

LOL another one is Heather Langenkamps's mom at the end of Nightmare on Elm Street, if you freeze frame where Freddy pulls her through the peephole window of the door, i think it's a blow-up doll :)

LOL!  I'd forgotten that one!  It'd have to be for the thing to kinda fold in the middle like that!

Had me and my horror novice friend in hysterics for a good few minutes...oh the good old days before CGI ;)

yea i saw that too thay kind of got cheap on us right there but at least when (i think it was) johny depp got pulled into his bead and a waterfall of blood shot to the ceiling that was some cool shit

 HA HA HA!  I say this all the time, and I am a chick.  Really, a naked gal is much prettier than a naked man -- seriously.  And what is a good horror movie without a damsel at least in her nighty :-)