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Jun 06, 2009 15:13    Quote
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A Nightmare on Elm Street. Seriously, there are movies I don't particularly care for where I can still understand what people see in them. This one, I just can't. The premise is so unbelievably stupid, I can't get past it.

Shutter/Pulse/etc. Techno-horror movies in general. You know, these Asian stories where some digital device causes ghosts to kill people. Or something. I dunno. Again, the premise of these things is so ridiculous, I just can't buy into them. Ringu was o.k. because it was the first and actually turned suspenseful, but after that it's been all downhill.

Saw. Just throwing this one out there to piss of crypticpsych. I already know why he likes it. Why do you like it? I never cared for it. I thought the acting in the first one sucked and could never get beyond that.

Hostel. I know I'm not alone in disliking this one, but I think there are some people around here who like it. I just thought it had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Hostel II, on the other hand, I liked.

Rob Zombie's Halloween. Too much information, Rob.

tways

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Jun 07, 2009 03:36    Quote
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Children of the Corn as well, guys.   I mean, it was an okay, one time view in the 80's but the sequels were horrible and the original just lame.

MadMolly

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Jun 08, 2009 12:39    Quote
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Saw I like because... its a puzzle and its got a sick philosophy behind it

Hostel I like because he goes out of his way to kill that guy at the end victim turns into killer I like that among other things, sexy women used as bait, the side story of the Asian girls, etc

Rob Zombies Halloween -I'm old school Rob fan. I'm not ridiculously attached to the original. And by this I don't mean that its not good, just that I'm more open to interpretation. If the same movie was made and the serial killer was not "michael myers" would it have been a good movie? I don't know about this but it seems like a lot of ppl dislike the movie b/c its supposed to be michael myers if it was the same story but with a different named killer would ppl like it better despite obvious similarities to Halloween???

Grantbnutt

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Jun 08, 2009 12:56    Quote
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Interesting List, Aside from Nightmare, I don't really like these films.

Even the original nightmare isn't why I like Freddy. I like the series as it evolves and finds it character, but the first nightmare is great for it's story, and the beginning of the fantasy elements of the series, but not my favorite.

I am not going to say Rob Zombie shouldn't be a filmmaker, but I will say it's clear from his films and fans, that he doesn't share my sensibilities. He has a lot of fans so I think he is doing things very well.

William9366

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Jun 09, 2009 02:42    Quote
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Nightmare..... I've never really liked. Freddie is just way too over the top for me, just stupid. Shutter/Pulse, I liked them. I won't say they are great films, or will even age well, but for right now they're ok. Saw I like just because I'm bent that way. I would love the chance to take some tard from the general population and have fun torturing him while making him realize what a dumb fuck he has been. I know, I told you I'm bent. Hostel, maybe along the same lines as Saw. I know the story is way different, but it gears me to think along the same lines. Robs Halloween? Well, I love that he took the time to explain WHY and HOW Mikey got so fucked up. That is what interests me, the how and why. I've been through some shit as a kid, and it interests me to see different takes on people, real and fictional, to try and understand where I'm at. Could I have been a serial killer? I think the odds were very great according to what I've learned about the ones who have been studied. Why am I not then? I have some twisted thoughts and emotions, but I am in complete control, almost all of the time. Tongue out     I know that was the long way around the barn, but you asked why. 

Jun 09, 2009 08:51    Quote
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No, that's fine. That's what I wanted to hear. It's interesting that your love of Zombie's Halloween has nothing to do with filmmaking, though. It's like loving Troll 2 because you had lots of those little troll dolls when you were young or something.

I have yet to see Z's Halloween defended on artistic grounds; i.e. on the grounds that he actually made it a better and more effective horror movie.

Grantbnutt

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Jun 11, 2009 18:00    Quote
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I Don't think he attempts to make it better, just adopt his sensibilites and bring it to a new generation. I don't enjoy Zombie's films, but I think he is very respectful of the genre.

Snakeman

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Jun 20, 2009 00:57    Quote
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Halloween Original is and forever will be one of my all time favourite films. It doesn't scare me, but from a technical stand point it is simply astonishing. The opening sequence is unique and a really good idea, the musical score is suspensful and I can see why this terrified audiences.

The remake I thought was an inspired and unique perspective on the original. I thought the background information was very well done, and I think if it had all been a prequel it might have been better. That being said I thought it was very well made and surprised me in how good it actually was. (SPOILER AHEAD) Still how can they do a sequel after they shot him in the head?!?!?! That shit even kills the undead for crying out loud!

I like the remake a lot and I think that it had a terrific atmosphere. If you wanted more of the original, you should just rewatch the original. Zombie offers his own perspective on the story and I salute him for it. I certainly think that for today's teenage audiences - who don't know jack shit about horror - it will probably be a better and more effective horror movie than the original. But that's today's stupid audiences, the kind who like Lady Gaga as a singer and therefore have no idea what art even is.

darkstar

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Jun 21, 2009 00:08    Quote
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A Nightmare on Elm Street. Seriously, there are movies I don't particularly care for where I can still understand what people see in them. This one, I just can't. The premise is so unbelievably stupid, I can't get past it.

Shutter/Pulse/etc. Techno-horror movies in general. You know, these Asian stories where some digital device causes ghosts to kill people. Or something. I dunno. Again, the premise of these things is so ridiculous, I just can't buy into them. Ringu was o.k. because it was the first and actually turned suspenseful, but after that it's been all downhill.

Saw. Just throwing this one out there to piss of crypticpsych. I already know why he likes it. Why do you like it? I never cared for it. I thought the acting in the first one sucked and could never get beyond that.

Hostel. I know I'm not alone in disliking this one, but I think there are some people around here who like it. I just thought it had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Hostel II, on the other hand, I liked.

Rob Zombie's Halloween. Too much information, Rob.

NOES:  Loved the first one and kind of liked the second but after that it was essentially the same movie over and over again

Pulse: It wasn't bad but I'd like to see it again. Never saw Shutter

Saw: Horror movies for people who don't really care for horror movies. Same goes for Hostel.

Halloween: Liked parts of it but the rest was horrible. I think the biggest reason some like this is because they are fans of RZ's "music" and would herald him as a genius for filming his wife doing scatporn

Snakeman

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Jun 21, 2009 04:44    Quote
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Nightmare On Elm Street - Fantastic idea, terribly executed. I always thought it'd be cool if David Lynch had made this film.

Saw 1 - Acting Sucked. Good twist, engaging, original - liked it lots

Saw 2 - Prefered it to 1. They all seem like more violent tv crime dramas to me, so I treat them as such and I am not dissapointed

Saw 3 - WTF! This ruined it for me. Jigsaw isn't into huge techno gadgets. He goes for the more simple approach of throwing a man in a hallway of barb wire and watching him kill himself. Also, did he just murder that little girl?!?!?! That's right. Saw 3 makes a murderer out of Jigsaw.

Saw 4 - My favourite of the pentalogy. Felt a lot like the first one, good twist, fooled the hell out of me.

Saw 5 - Again WTF! So many loose ends considering the tagline is "In the end, all the pieces will fit together"

Asian Techno Horror:

Ringu - Hated it. Absolutely absurd

The Ring - Better than Ringu, but still not great. Liked it cause of the scene with the horse.

Kairo - Absolutely freaking loved it. That is the wierdest ghost movie I have ever seen. (Remade into Pulse)

Pulse - Hated it.

One Missed Call (Original) - Loved it, A takashi miike standout.

One Missed Call (Remake) - Does anyone like it?

Hostel - Just wrote my review. Hated it.

crypticpsych

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Jun 22, 2009 06:19    Quote
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Saw 5 - Again WTF! So many loose ends considering the tagline is "In the end, all the pieces will fit together"

Actually, the tagline I saw was "You won't believe how it ends".....which as the movie went is just as bad as the tagline you pointed out.

Snakeman

posts: 136

Jun 24, 2009 01:14    Quote
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Over here in Aus, the add had the tagline "you won't believe how it ends" and the front cover had "in the end, all the pieces will fit together" which is actually a quote from the actual movie, but their decision to use it as a tagline is misleading.

considering that not only won't the pieces fit together, but their are several pieces missing, and they've just left it to the poor director of 6 to try and make some sense out of it all, and doubtless he will leave it to the director of 7, then 8, then 9, the 598, and by that time Jigsaaw won't just be dead, but it will be the year 3082 and a super inteligent robot with a sadistic mind will have taken over his work torturing other super intelligent robots to make them appreciate their harddrive....... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shackelfore

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Jun 24, 2009 03:39    Quote
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Over here in Aus, the add had the tagline "you won't believe how it ends" and the front cover had "in the end, all the pieces will fit together" which is actually a quote from the actual movie, but their decision to use it as a tagline is misleading.

considering that not only won't the pieces fit together, but their are several pieces missing, and they've just left it to the poor director of 6 to try and make some sense out of it all, and doubtless he will leave it to the director of 7, then 8, then 9, the 598, and by that time Jigsaaw won't just be dead, but it will be the year 3082 and a super inteligent robot with a sadistic mind will have taken over his work torturing other super intelligent robots to make them appreciate their harddrive....... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!

crypticpsych

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Jun 24, 2009 05:34    Quote
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Over here in Aus, the add had the tagline "you won't believe how it ends" and the front cover had "in the end, all the pieces will fit together" which is actually a quote from the actual movie, but their decision to use it as a tagline is misleading.

considering that not only won't the pieces fit together, but their are several pieces missing, and they've just left it to the poor director of 6 to try and make some sense out of it all, and doubtless he will leave it to the director of 7, then 8, then 9, the 598, and by that time Jigsaaw won't just be dead, but it will be the year 3082 and a super inteligent robot with a sadistic mind will have taken over his work torturing other super intelligent robots to make them appreciate their harddrive....... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darren Lynn Bousman once said he wanted to get out of the series before it reached "Jigsaw in Space".  lol

bloodlust

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Jun 24, 2009 11:54    Quote
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Nightmare On Elm Street-Saw it when I was 10...it scared me. Fun to watch but not one of my fave's.

Pulse- Did not like. It could not keep me interested or invested in the characters.

Saw- I really enjoyed the first.  After that they get watered down.

Hostel-Hated it!!!

RZ's Halloween- I am also a fan of Rob Zombie/White Zombie music wise and I respect his love of horror, but this "remake" was not good in any way. His overuse of cliche annoyed me and the backstory was too easy and predictable.  He should stick to original ideas.  There is absolutely nothing subtle about his films and I think it would be good if he held back just a little.  Not to say I don't love blood, guts, and violence, ofcourse I do. Sometimes you have to know when and where to amp it up and when to leave a little to the imagination.

Snakeman

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Jun 24, 2009 23:50    Quote
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Darren Lynn Bousman once said he wanted to get out of the series before it reached "Jigsaw in Space".  lol

If it can happen to Jason it can happen to Jigsaw.

crypticpsych

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Jun 25, 2009 06:27    Quote
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Darren Lynn Bousman once said he wanted to get out of the series before it reached "Jigsaw in Space".  lol

If it can happen to Jason it can happen to Jigsaw.

and Leprechaun

Grantbnutt

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Jun 25, 2009 11:18    Quote
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Darren Lynn Bousman once said he wanted to get out of the series before it reached "Jigsaw in Space".  lol

If it can happen to Jason it can happen to Jigsaw.

and Leprechaun

and Pinhead

Snakeman

posts: 136

Jun 26, 2009 01:29    Quote
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I've always stayed away from the lebrachaun movies. GEEEEEEES lets hope it doesn't happen to Freddy.

Grantbnutt

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Jun 26, 2009 11:47    Quote
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I've always stayed away from the lebrachaun movies. GEEEEEEES lets hope it doesn't happen to Freddy.

Actually I am surprise it hasn't happened to freddy. His is the only universe where he could be in space and it not be too ridiculous. I loved the comic book dreams! Part of why I love Freddy is how much fun they can have in the series because it's only limited by our own imaginations. But I wouldn't want to see this on a spacestation, just in a scifi dream.

crypticpsych

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Jun 27, 2009 05:45    Quote
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Closest it ever got I think was the dungeons and dragons nerd kill in No. 3.

nmucia

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Jul 29, 2009 05:11    Quote
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The Shining- I know I am probably on my own with this one. The book is infinitely better. I found very few parts of the movie actually scary. The one good death scene was mainly for shock value. Kubrick was like, Hey, King fans, take this, WAM! The scariest part was the lead actress who I prayed to God would be killed and then was dissapointed and cried. I guess the scariest thing about this movie is that she might still be out there ... waiting. Nicholson, one of my favorite actors, was slightly over the top and came off as comical to me at least.

(Also, if you read the book you know that the scariest aspects were left out of the movie, such as all the animal shrubberies.)

crypticpsych

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Jul 29, 2009 21:11    Quote
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The Shining- I know I am probably on my own with this one. The book is infinitely better. I found very few parts of the movie actually scary. The one good death scene was mainly for shock value. Kubrick was like, Hey, King fans, take this, WAM! The scariest part was the lead actress who I prayed to God would be killed and then was dissapointed and cried. I guess the scariest thing about this movie is that she might still be out there ... waiting. Nicholson, one of my favorite actors, was slightly over the top and came off as comical to me at least.

(Also, if you read the book you know that the scariest aspects were left out of the movie, such as all the animal shrubberies.)

While I like the movie a lot, I can tell you for a fact you're not alone.  I've heard a lot of people say the book is better, Stephen King even thought so enough to make a made-for-tv one in the 90s that followed the book more.  And a lot of people have Shelly Duvall issues too.....a LOT of people.  Like I said, I like it a lot, but I've heard enough griping about it to know that it's a surprisingly polarizing film.

ZombieMaster

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Jul 29, 2009 22:15    Quote
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The Shining- I know I am probably on my own with this one. The book is infinitely better. I found very few parts of the movie actually scary. The one good death scene was mainly for shock value. Kubrick was like, Hey, King fans, take this, WAM! The scariest part was the lead actress who I prayed to God would be killed and then was dissapointed and cried. I guess the scariest thing about this movie is that she might still be out there ... waiting. Nicholson, one of my favorite actors, was slightly over the top and came off as comical to me at least.

(Also, if you read the book you know that the scariest aspects were left out of the movie, such as all the animal shrubberies.)

While I like the movie a lot, I can tell you for a fact you're not alone.  I've heard a lot of people say the book is better, Stephen King even thought so enough to make a made-for-tv one in the 90s that followed the book more.  And a lot of people have Shelly Duvall issues too.....a LOT of people.  Like I said, I like it a lot, but I've heard enough griping about it to know that it's a surprisingly polarizing film.

The book was far better but I am a big Kubrick fan so I liked the movie as well. The TV version could have been better but I thought it was very good as far as following the book. And Rebecca De Mornay, God is good.

Gein

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Jul 30, 2009 00:37    Quote
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The Shining- I know I am probably on my own with this one. The book is infinitely better. I found very few parts of the movie actually scary. The one good death scene was mainly for shock value. Kubrick was like, Hey, King fans, take this, WAM! The scariest part was the lead actress who I prayed to God would be killed and then was dissapointed and cried. I guess the scariest thing about this movie is that she might still be out there ... waiting. Nicholson, one of my favorite actors, was slightly over the top and came off as comical to me at least.

 

(Also, if you read the book you know that the scariest aspects were left out of the movie, such as all the animal shrubberies.)

While I like the movie a lot, I can tell you for a fact you're not alone.  I've heard a lot of people say the book is better, Stephen King even thought so enough to make a made-for-tv one in the 90s that followed the book more.  And a lot of people have Shelly Duvall issues too.....a LOT of people.  Like I said, I like it a lot, but I've heard enough griping about it to know that it's a surprisingly polarizing film.

 I've seen the orignal movie, the remake, and read the book. The book was the best. By the time I watched the movies horror movies didn't really scare me anymore like when I was little. I actully thought the remake was better. Rebecca de Mornay actully fought back a little unlike Shelly Duvall who pretty much just stood there screaming the entire time. Does anyone else think she should've gotten axed INSTEAD of the cook?

darkstar

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Jul 30, 2009 03:59    Quote
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The Shining- I know I am probably on my own with this one. The book is infinitely better. I found very few parts of the movie actually scary. The one good death scene was mainly for shock value. Kubrick was like, Hey, King fans, take this, WAM! The scariest part was the lead actress who I prayed to God would be killed and then was dissapointed and cried. I guess the scariest thing about this movie is that she might still be out there ... waiting. Nicholson, one of my favorite actors, was slightly over the top and came off as comical to me at least.

(Also, if you read the book you know that the scariest aspects were left out of the movie, such as all the animal shrubberies.)

While I like the movie a lot, I can tell you for a fact you're not alone.  I've heard a lot of people say the book is better, Stephen King even thought so enough to make a made-for-tv one in the 90s that followed the book more.  And a lot of people have Shelly Duvall issues too.....a LOT of people.  Like I said, I like it a lot, but I've heard enough griping about it to know that it's a surprisingly polarizing film.

I've seen the orignal movie, the remake, and read the book. The book was the best. By the time I watched the movies horror movies didn't really scare me anymore like when I was little. I actully thought the remake was better. Rebecca de Mornay actully fought back a little unlike Shelly Duvall who pretty much just stood there screaming the entire time. Does anyone else think she should've gotten axed INSTEAD of the cook?

The only thing I really loved about The Shining was Nicholson, and the creepy atmospheric way Kubrick filmed it. Storywise I thought "remake" was more entertaining in ways.

Puddledive

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Sep 02, 2009 21:03    Quote
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Nightmare: I really enjoyed the first. They've gone steadily downhill for the most part, but the first one I found quite enjoyable. More mundane and such in the way they attempted to deal with him.

Pulse: I enjoyed the original pulse. Pretty much every American remake of a solid asian movie has turned out to be utter trash.

Saw: Again. Really enjoyed the first one. Even enjoyed the second one quite a bit. As they lost the 'rules' aspect, I became a lot less happy with the series. Now it is mediocre horror/torture porn.

Hostel: Like a previous commenter, I enjoyed that the victim turned into an attacker. The blowtorch to the eye was a bit much though.

Zombie Halloween: Alright, but fairly mediocre. Second one is complete garbage.

Children of the Corn: Like so many series, a great start that has been in decline as they constantly attempt, and fail, to make lightning in a bottle again.

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